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Post by lawton on Mar 30, 2013 11:01:21 GMT -5
Senate Budget - Extra raises for PBA Officers not for Teamster Officers. And they are saying about a Billion + into reserves but they won't get the 20+ million to give us the same seniority raise as the PBA Officers. www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2013/7040/BillText/Filed/PDFThis is the Senate's actual budget proposal - The extra compression raises for the PBA Officers are in there and there is no extra raise for DC Officers it would seem after reviewing the budget. Well there it is in writing for the State PBA represented Officers. So we will get 5% less than the PBA people it looks like if you have 5 years of service and 3% less if you are a newer Officer. I guess choices sometimes due end up having repurcussions. The money is there to give us this also but they decided to put even more into reserves instead it looks like.(b) Effective July 1, 2013, in addition to the adjustment required pursuant to subsection(1) and from funds in Specific Appropriation 1901B: 1. Each law enforcement employee with less than 5 years of state service as a law enforcement employee shall receive a special competitive pay adjustment of 3.0 percent on each employee’s June 30, 2013 base rate of pay. 2. Each law enforcement employee with 5 or more years of state service as a law enforcement employee shall receive a special competitive pay adjustment of 5.0 percent on each employee’s June 30, 2013, base rate of pay. |
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Post by whiteE on Mar 31, 2013 13:01:26 GMT -5
Drauka, Teamsters where are you? Been kinda quiet there.  |
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Post by lawton on Apr 1, 2013 5:36:45 GMT -5
Figured why bother, you guys are going to believe what you want. Carry on without my input. Just showing what is in writing right now. What have they told you guys ? My point the whole time was you have to be trying to get extra bumps for CO's from the main legislators and not just push some fantasy 7% bill that was never going to happen. I wonder if its too late for them to get their act together. My guess is they didn't spend the money where they needed to either. I almost get the feeling they know they will be gone and are just trying to get what last bit they can. |
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Post by lawton on Apr 1, 2013 18:06:25 GMT -5
Just showing what is in writing right now. What have they told you guys ? My point the whole time was you have to be trying to get extra bumps for CO's from the main legislators and not just push some fantasy 7% bill that was never going to happen. I wonder if its too late for them to get their act together. My guess is they didn't spend the money where they needed to either. I almost get the feeling they know they will be gone and are just trying to get what last bit they can. I sure hope you're wrong. If the Teamsters go out, who are we getting next...anyone? The PBA sure doesn't want us back....unless they've been passing out blue cards everywhere except Region 2....havent heard from them in any meaningful way (on our behalf) since 3 months after they lost the election. I think the PBA would take us back in a heartbeat but are waiting for the session to end and for reality to set in on what happened to us on the raises. I am not naive either - the PBA is loving that we were screwed over probably so it gives them the argument to get us back. Its crazy the silence from the Teamsters on this so far. I called twice claiming to be a member from my facilty (with his knowledge and blessing on his behalf) and they still haven't got back with me. Some are claiming the Teamsters are lobbying on the cheap with DOC issues and not giving key legislators what they should have to get in their good graces. I would like to see who they gave to in the legislature and the amount and compare it to the PBA. I just know by history the one thing the Reps were willing to do when there was extra money like this year was give a little extra to corrections usually when we had PBA. I know a lot of the push to get PBA out besides not getting anything for years like all the other state employees was Jim Baiardi ticking some people off but imo they need to let it go when results like this happen. I just hope if a change is made that next year's budget is good also so maybe we can get that compression raise next year. Time will tell I guess but like I said before I would rather have been wrong on the Teamsters and got the extra raise than be right and get messed over like it appears is about to happen. |
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Post by 2ndtimearound on Apr 1, 2013 19:42:39 GMT -5
Hmm just checked the teamster site and what do i find? NOT A THING ON THIS ISSUE. BUT, common sense immigration reform link. Imagine that a NATIONAL issue on the site. I think I might have said something about that back a few months ago. I see that they are exactly what I predicted. National issue oriented, impotent with the legislature,. Imagine that a union based in the Midwest area that is showing their liberal bias.
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Post by Drauka on Apr 2, 2013 8:19:23 GMT -5
Hmm just checked the teamster site and what do i find? NOT A THING ON THIS ISSUE. BUT, common sense immigration reform link. Imagine that a NATIONAL issue on the site. I think I might have said something about that back a few months ago. I see that they are exactly what I predicted. National issue oriented, impotent with the legislature,. Imagine that a union based in the Midwest area that is showing their liberal bias. You mean the links in the middle bottom of the page, with 4 links, only one of which is about national stuff? ....on a page full of other links to information about our local, things like FAQs, fliers, legislative updates, videos, among dozens of other topics specific to FDOC local 2011....the links right next to a section with 10 links specific to just updates about local 2011 titled " FDOC News Headlines", one of which is titled " Contract Bargaining Moves To The Second Round", in which you'll find another link to this page, which has been up for 3 months, fdocteamsters.unionactive.com/contractupdate121012.pdf which states that the Teamsters are seeking "WAGE INCREASES FOR ALL MEMBERS OF THE BARGAINING UNIT with employees having over 7 years or more receiving a 7% pay raise"...that section? This is why I'm not even bothering anymore. You guys will research the heck out of things that support what you want to believe, and see things how you assume them to be, but wont bother to even look at information that might possibly support the other view even slightly. It took me 3 minutes to check the Teamsters site and see that out of 40 or more links that are just for FDOC that 10 are information about what the National is doing. It took another minute to think ' pay raises are talked about during contract negotiations, I bet if there's anything about raises it'll be there' and then check that link and find it. I choose to see the information about the National as a positive thing. they are showing us stuff about other locals and in turn showing them OUR information. It also shows me/us that with a strong membership, those other locals are getting things done....and that we might be able to do the same at some point. I'm through arguing with the few people left on this site. Anyone who believes you guys' jaundiced view of what the PBA or the Teamsters are doing, and stand for, without even bothering to check the facts deserve to be mislead. |
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Post by lawton on Apr 2, 2013 17:30:26 GMT -5
I sent the following on Friday, and got the response below it today, just so you know. Please please please help by e-mailing the senate and saying you support Corrections being treated the same as other law enforcement! ******************************************************************** The following form was submitted from: fdocteamsters.unionactive.com/index.cfm?zone=/unionactive/form_page.cfm&formID=7789Form Data: FIRSTNAME = xxxxxxxxxx LASTNAME = xxxxxxxxxx ADDRESS = xxxxxxxxxxxx CITYSTATEZIPCODE = xxxxxxx FACILITY = xxxxxxxxxxxx REGION = 2 EMAILADDRESS = xxxxxxxxxxx@gmail.com PHONE = xxxxxxxxxxxx COMMENTS = There is some concern about the proposed Senate committee bill (SPB 7040) This document specifically includes us in an across the board pay increase at 3% on page 361 section (1) EMPLOYEE AND OFFICER COMPENSATION, but seems to omit our bargaining unit employees (Security Services Unit) from seniority based pay increases for Law Enforcement officers on page 362 in the section titled (2) SPECIAL PAY ISSUES. Am I reading this accurately? CAPTCHA = 9ajrk8 CAPTCHAHASH = 3E2F63BD3476DB7BE7D705F9EC114170 FORMID = 7789 NOTES = 2766 ***************************************************************** Jeff Edmiston <jedmistonibt2011@yahoo.com> 12:37 PM (4 hours ago) to me You're reading it correctly. We have meetings scheduled with the Senate Appropriations Committee members this week next week and until further notice to correct this injustice. This is our biggest issue we're fighting!!!!! Jeff Edmiston Statewide Coordinator Thanks Drauka, Hopefully something can be done but usually if things aren't in the first budgets submitted they don't end up being in there. We will see I guess and we can e-mail etc to see if a minor miracle can happen. |
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Post by lawton on Apr 2, 2013 17:44:03 GMT -5
Hmm just checked the teamster site and what do i find? NOT A THING ON THIS ISSUE. BUT, common sense immigration reform link. Imagine that a NATIONAL issue on the site. I think I might have said something about that back a few months ago. I see that they are exactly what I predicted. National issue oriented, impotent with the legislature,. Imagine that a union based in the Midwest area that is showing their liberal bias. I agree - I don't know why they changed to that setup that looks like the home of the Dem party when they know Reps are firmly in control of our legislature and will be for some time. One of my main reasons for opposing them was the Reps see them as the enemy and seem to only want public safety union endorsements as the others are seen like sleeping with the enemy. My other problem is they don't act properly to get the extras when available like the PBA does - Sen Negron initially said State LEO and Corrections needed longevity compression raises and then suddenly would only say State LEO in interviews. My guess is it was pointed out to Sen Negron that key Reps weren't getting much from the Teamsters and they openly opposed many of them while the PBA made sure him and Sen Gaetz got something for their causes etc. Whether we like it or not that is how things get done not by flooding their chambers. Also raises are determined by the key legislators not in those collective bargaining meetings whether discussed or not. Hopefully they can pull a minor miracle for us and still get us that extra raise but I doubt it. |
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Post by lawton on Apr 3, 2013 17:59:01 GMT -5
We probably will need a miracle  . In the early minutes of the hearing today April 3,2013 the Appropriations Chair makes it clear he wants that extra raise for PBA State LEO but no mention whatsoever of Corrections getting any extra raise like State LEO. It is now headed for a full Senate Floor vote with no extra raise for DOC Officers. www.flsenate.gov/media/videoplayer.cfm?EventID=2443575804_2013041036 |
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Post by Drauka on Apr 9, 2013 20:54:26 GMT -5
The Senate votes tomorrow on the budget and they are TRYING TO SCREW the FDOC again. EVERYONE needs to e-mail AND call them to show we stand united in our outrage over them wanting to give FHP and Fish/Wildlife seniority raises while screwing us over yet again. If they pass this, and you did nothing, then it's your fault. The e-mail link on their pages are easy to use, just click the link and type that we want equal seniority raises for all FDLE certified officers under SB1500. Please dont scroll past this without acting! Senator Negron: www.flsenate.gov/Senators/s32Senator Gaetz: www.flsenate.gov/Senators/s1Senator Montford: www.flsenate.gov/Senators/s3 (Calhoun, Franklin, Gadsden, Gulf, Hamilton, Jefferson, Leon, Liberty, Madison, Taylor, Wakulla) Senator Dean: www.flsenate.gov/Senators/s5 (Baker, Citrus, Columbia, Dixie, Gilchrist, Lafayette, Levy, Suwannee, Union, and part of Marion counties) Use the search function to find your areas senator and send them a message. After that, start sending messages to as many senators as you can. This was e-mailed out by the Teamsters today:Teamsters Local 2011 is working on your behalf to address the Fair Pay issue for our members. We been working very close with Senator Greg Evers and we are pleased to announce that we have filed an amendment for additional pay to include all Correctional Officers and Correctional Probation Officers. The amendment proposed would allow a 3% raise to be given to all officers with less than 5 years of service and a 5% raise for all officers with 5 or more years of service. This equates to a 6% raise for all officers with less than 5 years of service and an 8% raise for officers with 5 or more years of service. WE NEED THIS AMENDMENT TO PASS! We are asking you for your help. Call and email as many Senators as you can and urge them to support this amendment and vote YES! This amendment will be heard tomorrow April 10, 2013 by our legislators. Find your Senator www.flsenate.gov/Senators/FindPlease follow link below to view the amendment www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2013/1500/Amendment/995077/PDF |
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Post by lawton on Apr 9, 2013 21:06:49 GMT -5
The Senate votes tomorrow on the budget and they are TRYING TO SCREW the FDOC again. EVERYONE needs to e-mail AND call them to show we stand united in our outrage over them wanting to give FHP and Fish/Wildlife seniority raises while screwing us over yet again. If they pass this, and you did nothing, then it's your fault. The e-mail link on their pages are easy to use, just click the link and type that we want equal seniority raises for all FDLE certified officers under SB1500. Please dont scroll past this without acting! Senator Negron: www.flsenate.gov/Senators/s32Senator Gaetz: www.flsenate.gov/Senators/s1Senator Montford: www.flsenate.gov/Senators/s3 (Calhoun, Franklin, Gadsden, Gulf, Hamilton, Jefferson, Leon, Liberty, Madison, Taylor, Wakulla) Senator Dean: www.flsenate.gov/Senators/s5 (Baker, Citrus, Columbia, Dixie, Gilchrist, Lafayette, Levy, Suwannee, Union, and part of Marion counties) Use the search function to find your areas senator and send them a message. After that, start sending messages to as many senators as you can. This was e-mailed out by the Teamsters today:Teamsters Local 2011 is working on your behalf to address the Fair Pay issue for our members. We been working very close with Senator Greg Evers and we are pleased to announce that we have filed an amendment for additional pay to include all Correctional Officers and Correctional Probation Officers. The amendment proposed would allow a 3% raise to be given to all officers with less than 5 years of service and a 5% raise for all officers with 5 or more years of service. This equates to a 6% raise for all officers with less than 5 years of service and an 8% raise for officers with 5 or more years of service. WE NEED THIS AMENDMENT TO PASS! We are asking you for your help. Call and email as many Senators as you can and urge them to support this amendment and vote YES! This amendment will be heard tomorrow April 10, 2013 by our legislators. Find your Senator www.flsenate.gov/Senators/FindPlease follow link below to view the amendment www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2013/1500/Amendment/995077/PDFI will definately call and e-mail. Its not just FHP and FWC getting the special raise its all the state agencies that the PBA represents. |
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Post by Drauka on Apr 10, 2013 16:52:49 GMT -5
From a flier sent out by the Teamsters this afternoon: ------------------------------------------------------- April 10, 2013 Legislative Update- Pay Raise Proposal Today on the Senate floor, Senator Rene Garcia proposed anunfunded amendment to give all Florida Department of Correction(FDOC) officers a 3% and 5% additional raise. Unfortunately the unfunded amendment was withdrawn due to funding constraints. SenatorGreg Evers also proposed a funded amendment that would give FDOC Law Enforcement Officers, including Corrections, an additional $113.28 a year raise. After Senator Greg Evers completed his opening statement, the support from the Senate floor was apparent. There was a commitment made by several Senators to find the funds in the budget to give the Florida Department of Corrections Officers an additional raise of 3% for less than 5 years of service and 5% for 5 years or more of service.The next step is, once the Senate convenes to Conference they will discuss finding the funds to support pay raise amendment. The Senators listed below have committed to find and allocate the funds for a long overdue additional raise. Please call and email the Senators listed below and thank them for their commitment to agree to find the funding for your well-deserved additional raise. Senator Rob Bradley Senator Charles Dean Senator Greg Evers Senator Rene Garcia Senator Jack Latvala Senator Bill Montford Senator Joe Negron Senator Maria Sachs Senator Thrasher, John Find your Senator www.flsenate.gov/Senators/Find |
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Post by lawton on Apr 10, 2013 19:05:09 GMT -5
From a flier sent out by the Teamsters this afternoon: ------------------------------------------------------- April 10, 2013 Legislative Update- Pay Raise Proposal Today on the Senate floor, Senator Rene Garcia proposed anunfunded amendment to give all Florida Department of Correction(FDOC) officers a 3% and 5% additional raise. Unfortunately the unfunded amendment was withdrawn due to funding constraints. SenatorGreg Evers also proposed a funded amendment that would give FDOC Law Enforcement Officers, including Corrections, an additional $113.28 a year raise. After Senator Greg Evers completed his opening statement, the support from the Senate floor was apparent. There was a commitment made by several Senators to find the funds in the budget to give the Florida Department of Corrections Officers an additional raise of 3% for less than 5 years of service and 5% for 5 years or more of service.The next step is, once the Senate convenes to Conference they will discuss finding the funds to support pay raise amendment. The Senators listed below have committed to find and allocate the funds for a long overdue additional raise. Please call and email the Senators listed below and thank them for their commitment to agree to find the funding for your well-deserved additional raise. Senator Rob Bradley Senator Charles Dean Senator Greg Evers Senator Rene Garcia Senator Jack Latvala Senator Bill Montford Senator Joe Negron Senator Maria Sachs Senator Thrasher, John Find your Senator www.flsenate.gov/Senators/FindWe still have a chance but I don't like how Negron said that about trying to find money in criminal Justice in the video above because that is already razor thin funding as it is. They have nearly 3 billion dollars extra for reserves this year and if they dont get the 30 something million they need to give us the same raise as the PBA people then Negron is just baically saying you aren't getting it because you have the Teamsters - that is not right no matter what the politics. At least this issue is front and center some now. Also a big thumbs up to Sen Evers for putting this on the radar. |
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Post by Drauka on Apr 11, 2013 7:14:10 GMT -5
We definitely need to keep pressure on ALL of the senators to vote in favor of us getting the same treatment as other FDLE certified law enforcement officers. If you have a facebook account, please encourage all of your friends (DOC or not) to e-mail Negron, Gaetz and any other senator they can. Stress that we are law enforcement and deserve the same treatment as those officers more commonly seen by the public.
I really believe that the more we flood their e-mails, the better the chance that some of the on-the-fence senators might side with us in a debate/conference. Our chances are admittedly slim, but getting better and better with every push we make, we just cant give up until the inks dry.
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Post by lawton on Apr 13, 2013 22:09:40 GMT -5
We definitely need to keep pressure on ALL of the senators to vote in favor of us getting the same treatment as other FDLE certified law enforcement officers. If you have a facebook account, please encourage all of your friends (DOC or not) to e-mail Negron, Gaetz and any other senator they can. Stress that we are law enforcement and deserve the same treatment as those officers more commonly seen by the public. I really believe that the more we flood their e-mails, the better the chance that some of the on-the-fence senators might side with us in a debate/conference. Our chances are admittedly slim, but getting better and better with every push we make, we just cant give up until the inks dry. I agree and getting those canned responses mean they are getting many e-mails on it. |
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. In the early minutes of the hearing today April 3,2013 the Appropriations Chair makes it clear he wants that extra raise for PBA State LEO but no mention whatsoever of Corrections getting any extra raise like State LEO.