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Post by baddawg on Nov 19, 2007 9:47:54 GMT -5
STATE HOUSE REP. MARTI COLEY WILL BE MAKING AN IN HOUSE TOUR OF THE VOC. PROGRAMS AT ACI ON NOV. 26TH. IS IT ABOUT PROGRAMS...... OR HIGH RISK?
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Post by UpchuckBuck on Nov 19, 2007 18:37:46 GMT -5
I like to hear that, about Rep. Coley. I'd like to email her and encourage her to look closely at the disparity that faces DOC's "other" staff who work directly with inmates behind the fence. Didn't someone here once have email addresses for legislators?
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Post by renegade on Dec 22, 2007 2:36:49 GMT -5
Hey folks I work at Washington CI and I don't have a clue as to what you are talking about. I realize that I am like 3 months behind here but
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Post by nursebetty on Dec 26, 2007 12:12:49 GMT -5
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Post by UpchuckBuck on Dec 28, 2007 0:46:59 GMT -5
Thanks Betty. I checked the link and it works. I'm found that there's an email link in the upper right corner for each legislator. That's really handy to have.
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WE BE EATING CAT FOOD!!!!!!!!!
Full Member
WHEN OH WHEN WILL WE STOP GETTING SCREWED OVER BY THE SO CALLED ADMINISTRATORS OF THIS DEPARTMENT.
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Post by WE BE EATING CAT FOOD!!!!!!!!! on Dec 28, 2007 7:06:32 GMT -5
Check the PBA section. Each and very e mail address for the legislature.
As a warning, DO NOT PUT YOUR NAME ON IT.
The Department, meaning McHitler, Sapp, Tina Hayes, will go after you like they did that Lieutenant at Charlotte. Move him with no reason given. Just up and transferred his ass out of charlotte.
When you write an idiot in the legislature, tell them why you are afraid to put your name on it or you may end up at hendry or some other $hithole in region 4.
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Post by highlander on Dec 29, 2007 7:22:58 GMT -5
The reason we get high risk is to make up for the lower pay. If we give high risk to everyone the program will run out of cash and go under and no one will have a retirement then.
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Post by marvinhill on Dec 29, 2007 22:02:17 GMT -5
highlander~ wrong answer...maintenance (and the others) are lower paid and don't get high risk. I still stand by my initial thoughts ~ if you work with inmates, you should receive high risk benefits, no matter where you work, you are putting your life on the line just like everyone else.
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Post by highlander on Dec 30, 2007 6:47:14 GMT -5
Never seen maintenance in a use of force, in a cell extraction, or working an escape. So I don't see how their job is "just as dangeruos". Security is always around, they're never alone with inamtes, unlike us.
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Post by jwmullet on Dec 30, 2007 10:16:51 GMT -5
Never alone with inmates! I don't know what world you live and work in Highlander but it is not the Real world. Many times , maintenance employees are alone with inmates with no security around. As far as use of force I have seen maintenance personnel involved in numerous use of force situations during the years. You are dead WRONG on this issue.
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Post by UpchuckBuck on Dec 30, 2007 10:17:50 GMT -5
Highlander, you have your facts wrong to begin with and then you make your judgment based upon them. Fact is, high risk has nothing to do with your job description. It is supposed to be based upon your working environment and related stresses. Those stresses are medically determined to result in shorter work longevity and greater health risks over an individual's work career.
Your examples are just one group of job responsibilities that constitute a work environment deemed eligible by the Legislature for high risk retirement benefits. However, they are not the only ones. There are a number of employee groups in DOC who do work in environments that meet high risk retirement criteria, but they have not been designated so by the Legislature. And, yes, some of them do work alone with inmates, evidently unlike your institution.
Your previous point about adding other staff to the high risk retirement benefit pool is also just wrong. There is no "high risk retirement" pot of money. It is just one retirement category of several in Florida's retirement program, including legislator's. The retirement system has actuaries who have to ensure that benefits awarded by the Legislature are financially sound, projected forward in coming years.
Sometimes it helps to have the bigger picture to keep perspective on issues like this. Dividing staff only keeps a few down while it hurts morale for all. Working behind the fence is stressful enough without some staff having to worry that they don't have the support of their co-workers.
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Post by highlander on Dec 30, 2007 20:17:43 GMT -5
Your previous point about adding other staff to the high risk retirement benefit pool is also just wrong. There is no "high risk retirement" pot of money. It is just one retirement category of several in Florida's retirement program, including legislator's. The retirement system has actuaries who have to ensure that benefits awarded by the Legislature are financially sound, projected forward in coming years.
Andif it's not financially sound they'll start cutting back on everyone's retirement. They're already complining about budgets being short, what better way to save money than to cut back on our retirements.
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Post by UpchuckBuck on Dec 31, 2007 1:54:42 GMT -5
...and what better way to protect your own high risk retirement than to deny it for people working right alongside you behind the fence. Guess that just about sums it up, huh?
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Post by renegade on Dec 31, 2007 2:59:59 GMT -5
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Post by Warren on Dec 31, 2007 19:31:22 GMT -5
The following is a list of positions other than security that do receive high risk retirement. 1. Dietician (class codes 5203 and 5204) 2. Public health nutrition consultant (class code 5224) 3. Psychological specialist (class codes 5230 and 5231) 4. Psychologist (class code 5234) 5. Senior psychologist (class code 5237 and 5238) 6. Regional mental health consultant (class code 5240) 7. Psychological services director—DCF (class code 5242) 8. Pharmacist (class code 5245 and 5246) 9. Senior pharmacist (class code 5248 and 5249) 10. Dentist (class code 5266) 11. Senior dentist (class code 5269) 12. Registered nurse ( class code 5290 and 5291) 13. Senior registered nurse (class code 5292 and 5293) 14. Registered nurse specialist ( class code 5294 and 5295) 15. Clinical associate (class code 5298 and 5299) 16. Advanced registered nurse practitioner (class code 5297and 5300) 17. Advanced registered nurse practitioner specialist (class code 5304 and 5305) 18. Registered nurse supervisor (class code 5306 and 5307) 19. Senior registered nurse supervisor (class code 5308 and 5309) 20. Register nursing consultant (class codes 5312 and 5313) 21. Quality management program supervisor (class code 5314) 22. Executive nursing director (class codes 5320 and 5321) 23. Speech and hearing therapist (class code 5406); or 24. Pharmacy manager (class code 5251) dochighrisk.org/High_Risk_Jobs.cfm
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