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Post by dragonsgt on Sept 25, 2008 9:57:50 GMT -5
Did anyone out there know my brother, Mark Kincaid? Retired, Lake Butler about two years ago? He committed suicide on 5/29 this year.
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Post by grouchymom on Sept 26, 2008 12:39:05 GMT -5
I knew Mark. Good man and father. Was saddened when he passed away. He's in a better place now.............
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Post by dragonsgt on Sept 26, 2008 14:54:29 GMT -5
:)I am so happy to hear from someone who knew Mark. Thank you for responding. We miss him so much. I have been posting on PrisonOfficer.org for a while now and it has helped me have a better understanding of what Mark went through.
I know that my brother was not the first to do what he did in the system. When I started researching I found that 39% of all persons in the system have committed suicide. I am searching my own soul to find a way to lower this rate. Many people have responded that there are programs out there to help while you are actually working, but I think there should me some type of mandatory re-entry into society counsel.
Do you know?
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sunshine143
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Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result...
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Post by sunshine143 on Sept 27, 2008 18:27:36 GMT -5
One institution, I had known one officer that killed himself while still employed and the other one was retired (he was from the old school and would have never known). The other one who had moved to another camp which was female did and same thing would never have thought. About 5 mths ago, a captain from Columbia did. I think you have a point though, it does happen more that what we realize. There is a program called EAP but if you have used it before, they are underpaid - cheap version of a person that doesn't get it because they do not know the in's and out's of the prison terminology. It really does suck because the "outside" people do not understand. Yes, it isn't a labor job but the crap and negativity you have to deal with day in and day out. I feel for you on your losses and hope peace comes soon! I send a prayer your way..
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Post by dragonsgt on Oct 2, 2008 19:50:36 GMT -5
Thank you for your prayers.
From what I have gathered so far there is much emphasis placed on the well being and protection of inmates and their mental health, with little or insufficient protection for the CO's. It's like we took a wrong turn somewhere and forgot who the bad guys were. My brother started in 1982 (if I can remember that far back) and I guess he was "old school", but I watch these sites and I read the same thing over and over. My take seems to be most feel like they have been hung out to dry. I hope I can help to make that feeling go away.
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Post by Tazz on Oct 2, 2008 21:19:17 GMT -5
Let me open by saying that I am truly sorry for your loss. I cannot begin to understand what you are struggling to deal with. For what it's worth, there are those of us that do care.
Now, you said in your post that "we took a wrong turn somewhere". It wasn't us that took a wrong turn, it is society that took a wrong turn. We have become such a whiney, drug dependent, selfish society that people just don't care anymore. We have the ACLU defending those that ARE wrong; we have the "tv talking heads" defending a criminal who has commited some awful crime because the criminal is "pitiful and picked on". It has gotten sickening.
Then there are folks like your brother who hang in there and scratch, claw, do whatever they have to do to survive. Then, people get tired...........damn tired........and just cannot hang on. There is alot of outside pressure that we all deal with everyday. Sometimes it just gets old really fast.
I pray you find peace somewhere in all this. As I said, I cannot imagine what you face everyday in an attempt to deal with it. Just know some of us care.......about suicide.......and about those left behind.
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Post by dragonsgt on Oct 3, 2008 20:44:02 GMT -5
Oh yes I totally agree it is society that has taken the wrong turn. I keep hearing "hug a thug". It makes me sick. I know that my brother has found his reward in heaven. He was VERY PROUD of what he did. There are so many of you out there who should and are proud of what you do. No one should be allowed to take that away from anyone who does the job that you do. I appreciate it from the bottom of my very soul.
I believe that the bleeding hearts in the ACLU should have to walk one day in your shoes, one day in my brother's shoes--have their families suffer the way we have. The lost marriages, the children who are collateral damage, the nightmares, the alcoholism--the pure take it home craziness. I know in my heart that to forgive is the right thing to do, but while I have the breath left in me to get my brother's (and his brothers and sisters in arms) story out there I am going to make it my business to raise ****!!!!
I talk to my brother in my heart everyday of my life to let him know how proud I am of him, how much he is missed, how much he is loved. He will never be forgotten.
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Post by Tazz on Oct 5, 2008 15:05:55 GMT -5
Truly a sad story. Hang in there hon.
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Post by Meagan on Mar 9, 2011 1:31:13 GMT -5
Mark was my step-dad! I so wish he would have been around to see his grandkids. I remember when I found out I was pregnant with my daughter. He was sitting at the double deuce in Lake Butler he was the first person I told and he yelled out " Hey this is my daughter and I'm gonna be a grandpa!" Embarrassed me of course but thankful for his support and happiness. I truly miss him everyday.
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Post by Wendy aka Pookiesw on Jul 2, 2013 1:42:47 GMT -5
I do not know if anyone still views this but if this is the Mark I am thinking of I am just so saddened right now. I knew Mark for many years and he was a very dear and close friend of mine, please if anyone is out there I would like to know what happened. We lost contact after he retired he kind of just shut me out. I knew he was not doing well but never... did I think... oh god. Please if someone could get in contact with me - Wendy (from Michigan)
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