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Post by 2ndtimearound on May 29, 2012 16:30:35 GMT -5
www.teamster.org/content/teamsters-endorse-obama-0Like where some of your dues are going now? I know the teamster members got the newsletter and that is directly where the link comes from. The NATIONAL level is going to sell us out. BTW how is the recall going of Scott Walker up in the mid-west? Not so good from what I hear. I believe even the Democratic national Committee (headed by FL Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schulz) is pulling out of the fight there. But can't be sure because she tells one story to C-span reporter and another to a different reporter.
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Post by 2ndtimearound on May 29, 2012 22:45:09 GMT -5
Bottom line is THE HEAD OF THE ORGANIZATION IS ENDORSING OBAMA. He promised and army to President Obama and is now delivering. It is not about weather dues are being used. it is about a voting block. And you bet your sweet butt IF Hoffa can convince the President that the teamsters put him over the top then Hoffa will get something in return. yeah I like being used like that. Kind of like paying for being pulled off of the cliff by Satan's best friend. You can bet there will be a cost later. But just keep on hating at only one level. There is no BIG picture to see. Sounds exactly like the Teamster car union guys on a car board I go to the teamsters are all knowing and will save us from them. NOT. they will sell us out just like PBA did eventually.
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Post by highlander on May 30, 2012 15:42:01 GMT -5
One of several reasons I didn't vote for them.
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Post by Homer Simpson on May 30, 2012 18:30:42 GMT -5
Heres a real stupid question for 2ndtime or highlander. Who do you think the Teamsters are going to realistically endorse. An anti-union republican or a pro-union democrat? Its a no brainer. Look at what Romney is endorsing in general and the Republicans specifically. Look at what is happening in Wisconsin. The Republicans want to BAN ALL STATE EMPLOYEE UNIONS. So tell me guys , do you really expect the Teamsters or any other self respecting union to support a Republican in this race. Cmon you are, I believe intelligent human beings. The Republicans are anti-union and the Dems are pro-union. Who do you think the Teamsters are going to support??? Heres a prediction for you. I think when Scott runs for governor in 2014 that the Teamsters, along with PBA and ALL the other public employee unions will support a pro-Obama Democrat to run against him. Why??? Well I will let you figure out that one.
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Post by metsfan on May 30, 2012 18:50:54 GMT -5
One of several reasons I didn't vote for them. hey you never know, you might be working with democrats, they are no better then inmates. ;D
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Post by Homer Simpson on May 30, 2012 19:07:56 GMT -5
One of several reasons I didn't vote for them. hey you never know, you might be working with democrats, they are no better then inmates. ;D So metsfan, you are a Rick Scott supporter then. You like the fact that the Republicans here in Florida are cutting our pay , pensions and benefits and are trying to privatize us??? Are you a state correctional officer? Cause you sure dont sound like one???
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Post by metsfan on May 30, 2012 20:31:41 GMT -5
hey you never know, you might be working with democrats, they are no better then inmates. ;D So metsfan, you are a Rick Scott suppoter then. You like the fact that the Republicans here in Florida are cutting our pay , pensions and benefits and are trying to privitize us??? Are you a state correctional officer? Cause you sure dont sound like one??? Sarcasam buddy
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Post by Homer Simpson on May 30, 2012 20:34:06 GMT -5
Sorry I didnt catch it dude. On this forum its hard to tell.
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Post by 2ndtimearound on May 30, 2012 21:55:23 GMT -5
let me see here in my time with the state from 1994 there have been several governors. One Democrat and three Republicans. Childs- signed off on a raise. Bush- signed off on a raise several times including giving old region 1 the COLA that was proven to be total BS. Christ- one time bonus and nothing else. Scott- well we all know that song. BUT that all being said. There is no attempt by the entire Republican Party to "disband" public employee unions or collective bargaining units (which BTW is what is in FL get your stuff straight) That is hogwash pushed by spin doctors. stop spouting off the pro-liberal agenda. The fact is that Hoffa will use this chapter and every other chapter to get what ever it is he wants. I am not saying the National Teamsters are using local dues. that has been satisfactorily cleared IMHO. I am saying the National teamsters are using what they perceive as political clout. And that clout is each and every member. And yes a pro-union guy or gal will run against Scott in 2014 weather Obama is in office or not. And if Scott does not have everything he promised he will be out of there. I want a smaller Federal Government before the entire thing collapses. How long until China says, "More money? Sure give us all drilling rights around Florida"? Or some other similar thing? 16,000,000,000,000 that is a lot of dollars. Last summer the Federal Reserve monetized a portion of our debt. It was called Quantatative Easing. It is what we all call "printing money" because not one country would buy our T-bills. the result of that can be seen in the inflated prices at the pump and the grocery store. Bought any peanut butter lately? Oil is under 90 bucks per barrel but gas is still over 3.60 per gallon national average. It is not just corporate greed guys. it is also an inflated money supply. But you guys have your head in the sand beyond the State level. And I am the one who is crazy. Read the books One Second After (I do not remember the Author) and Patriots by James W. Rawles.
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Post by Homer Simpson on May 30, 2012 22:39:06 GMT -5
2ndtime I know the Republicans are not trying to ban PUBLIC EMPLOYEE UNIONS in Florida. They cant. It is in the state constitution that public employees are allowed to belong in unions. I said that the Republicans( under Scott Walker) want to ban public employee unions in Wisconsin. Which the Republicans in that state are for and Mitt Romney says he agrees with and which many in the RNC are very sympathetic to. Please read my posts carefully before you try to put words in my mouth. I never mentioned that the Republicans were wanting to ban PUBLIC EMPLOYEE UNIONS IN FLORIDA. My point is that the Teamsters and any other union will support a candidate that will represent their own interests. And the Republicans are Anti-union. I think even you will agree with that. As far as Scott's promises go , well one thing I will give Scott he has delivered everything he has promised. But that doesn't mean that I am going to vote for him. He said he was going to cut the state workforce, he was going to cut state employees pay,benefits and pensions and he has he has delivered on those promises. He also said he was going to privatize many state agencies. Fortunately the Teamsters, who you hate, put that plan on hold for the time being in DOC. Of course you say you no longer work for the state. So why should you care if he cuts our pay, pensions and benefits.
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Post by 2ndtimearound on May 31, 2012 5:33:17 GMT -5
I said there is "no attempt by the entire Republican Party to "disband" public employee unions or collective bargaining units (which BTW is what is in FL get your stuff straight)". Scott Walker did what was needed to fix the budget in Wisconsin. He brought a huge deficet into a surplus. Not a big one mind you but a surplus none the less. Remember states can not just print money. Scott has not cut the State workforce as much as some think. Go to capitol Circle in Tally and see the enourmous number of cars parked at State offices. And no I have not yet left the State but with 12 hour shifts I am not far from it. What I said was that 12 hour shifts will be what drives me away. Again get your facts straight. DOUH!!!!
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Post by Homer Simpson on May 31, 2012 9:37:08 GMT -5
Wow 2ndtime. Your parking lot check in Tallahassee sures sounds accurate. Here's what your boy Scott is bragging about. That over 15,000 state jobs were eliminated. Unless you think he's lying, I think Ill take his stats over yours. I stand corrected when I stated that I thought you were retired. I guess you can chalk that up on my part on me being a poor dumb ass state employee. I do have the feeling though that you will be working for the state long after we have gone to 12 hr shifts. Thus we will still be privy I am sure, to your gems of political wisdom as well as your uncanny accurate predictions for the future. Could be wrong, but that's my prediction. thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/09/23/327763/rick-scott-public-sector-unemployment/?mobile=nc
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Post by 2ndtimearound on Jun 1, 2012 20:36:35 GMT -5
Believe what you want on the offices in Tally. They are full. The parking lot in particular I am talking about is between the Federal Prison and the New First District Court of appeal building. Right across from the department of agriculture. I do not remember the actual name of it. As for me leaving it is just a matter of time. And you can go back to your world of denial with no one else disturbing you. Pretty sad that I pull a link from the actual newsletter from our bargaining unit and nobody wants to come out and say anything. So you all just be good little members and keep the quiet. Be sure to vote for whom you are told to. And all of the smiters keep it up. I love it. However I am interested if that is how do other staff. Talk behind thier backs and are grateful that they never know? Homer and Drakua will come out and be men to a person's face. And I respect that far more than what you smiters are doing. BTW Homer and Drakua you each get an exalt from me for being upfront.
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Post by Mr Hat on Jun 2, 2012 7:59:39 GMT -5
2nd time, I am a Teamster, Not because they support Obama, but because they have done what no other union has done for us in the past. I've seen them fight for basic rights for an individual when everyone else told him to sit there and take the abuse. I do not support Obama by any means. Never even voted for him. But that's my right. I take what information I get and decide for myself. However The teamsters will support anyone that supports unions, no matter how you like them or not.
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Post by Mr Hat on Jun 4, 2012 8:37:45 GMT -5
I agree Drauka
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